Truthful, Honest
-- But Funny
By Evan Hughes '94
David Lindsay-Abaire’s first New York production,
Devil Inside, appeared at the Soho Repertory Company in
1997. While a playwriting fellow at Juilliard, he wrote
Fuddy Meers, which was selected for the Eugene O’Neill
National Competition and produced by the Manhattan Theater
Club (MTC) in 1999, to rave reviews. The following year,
Sarah Jessica Parker played the lead role in David’s
Wonder of the World, also produced by MTC. His next show,
Kimberly Akimbo, opened in February. The New York Times
is calling it “haunting and hilarious...at once a
shrewd satire, a black comedy and a heartbreaking study
of how time wounds everyone.” In addition to finishing
his screen adaptation of Fuddy Meers, David recently signed
a two-picture deal with Miramax films, and is currently
developing a sitcom for ABC starring Kristen Johnson and
produced by David Letterman.
Rest
assured, Class of 1988, David Abaire’s glasses are
much, much better than the ones he wore in high school.
Fame has brought him at least that far. The frames no longer
obscure the better part of his face, as they did in his
Milton yearbook pictures. He is also trimmer, though still
pleasantly rounded off at the edges, a characteristic befitting
a born comic. Actually, he is now David Lindsay-Abaire,
for reasons that will soon become clear.
Once David leads me into the spacious living room of his
Brooklyn duplex apartment, his young son, Nicholas, runs
over my foot with his Fisher-Price lawn mower by way of
a greeting. Trailing after Nicholas is his mother, Chris.
She is beautiful. In fact, don’t get me wrong David,
but she’s a knockout. I am instantly sure he once
cast her in a New York play and the sparks flew. It turns
out that although she is an actor and did appear in his
“early works,” says David, laughing off the
phrase as hopelessly pretentious, they actually met as housemates
in a domicile straight out of MTV’s “The Real
World” – three men, three women – at Bronxville’s
Sarah Lawrence College. Now that they are both established,
however, “She does her thing and I do mine. It’s
not like David Mamet, casting all his wives. We didn’t
want to get anywhere near that.” It sounds like a
remarkably sane policy. Also sane (sort of) is their agreement
regarding surnames: they took each other’s and became
the Lindsay-Abaires.
As he runs through a recap of his rapid rise in the world
of New York theater, the big moment is clear only in retrospect.
It occurs when his comedy about a middle-aged woman with
amnesia, Fuddy Meers, is produced by the Manhattan Theater
Club in 1999. “So then Fuddy Meers went up, and that
was really, you know…” he says, his voice trailing
off for the sake of humility. Before all this happens, I
check to make sure my tape recorder is working. He says
the reporter from The New York Times did the same thing.
Flattery will get you everywhere. The interview begins in
earnest when I ask him the first on our list of prearranged
questions.
EH: Why write plays?
DL-A: Oh my god…
EH: You were prepared…
DL-A: It’s the hardest
one on the list! It’s a good question, though. The
easy answer is this: It’s what I do best. What is
different about playwriting is that you communicate through
the spoken word, and it’s a very alive, living medium.
Every night in the theater is different from the night before.
There’s a real exchange between the audience and what’s
going on onstage. I love showing up and knowing what people
think of my work. When you publish a novel, you don’t
get to sit behind the reader’s shoulder and see what
they like and don’t like. In the theater, you know
immediately if your line bombs, and then maybe you rework
it. I love it.
EH: How did you know this
was your strength?
DL-A: A lot of trial and
error. I did a number of different kinds of writing,
starting at Milton. In creative writing classes, in English
class. After we did a Fourth Class play, a classmate said,
“You know, we should do a Third Class play,”
and the reaction from the faculty was like, “Are you
mad?” That was unheard of. My classmate, Amy Stevens
said, “You’re the funny one; you write it.”
Not knowing any better, I did. And that’s how I became
a playwright. Amy Stevens said, “Go be one.”
Once I did it, I knew that it’s a hard enough role,
and I don’t want to be one who writes the play, directs
it, and stars in it. It would just be distracting. That
said, I went to college primarily as an actor. I didn’t
know exactly what I was going to do. And I took English
and psychology and acting, and essentially took playwriting
just to fulfill my theater program requirement. “Oh,
I’ll do playwriting; I did that in high school.”
EH: What happened to make
you settle on writing?
DL-A: I wrote a play called
Devil Inside, and no, I had never heard of the INXS song,
and with that I applied to Juilliard. It was a fellowship,
not a degree program, with Christopher Durang and Marsha
Norman teaching. So it was free and I could do it while
working full time at Dance Theater Workshop in Chelsea.
And while doing all that, I wrote Fuddy Meers. Just when
I was finishing at Juilliard, 20th Century Fox got wind
of my work and actually offered me this job as a contract
writer, and they don’t usually do that now; it’s
a setup from the 1930s. We’ll pay you a weekly salary,
and you’ll try to write some screenplays and possibly
some TV stuff. I didn’t want to write screenplays,
though, and I didn’t want to go to Hollywood, and
I said, “Are you going to make me go to Hollywood?”
No. “Are you going to put me on staff at a TV show?
Bouncing jokes off one another?” And they said no.
So I said, “Okay.”
EH: What sort of movie did
they see you writing?
DL-A: They knew what my
style was. My voice is kind of off. It’s not mainstream.
They said, “We feel like your writing is a lot like
Flirting with Disaster, so your first movie will be like
that, just till you figure out where the margins are. So
I wrote this movie and they loved it and Hugh Grant was
suddenly attached to star. They put the producer of Forrest
Gump on it, and privately I’m thinking, “People
complain about making it in Hollywood; it’s so easy!”
And then the project…
EH: Went into development
hell.
DL-A: Exactly, development
hell.
EH: Meanwhile, though, Fuddy
Meers comes out of previews, and kind of explodes. The New
York Times dubs me. They say, “You’re a successful
playwright.” It’s ridiculous, it’s totally
luck. But for whatever reason, the Times says, “It’s
good.” Then the new president of Fox comes in and
asks, “Why are we paying this guy a weekly salary?”
She calls me and says, “We think your script is great,
but it’s a little too… Flirting with Disaster”
[widespread laughs]. They wanted me to do another Runaway
Bride and I said, “You know what? That’s a fine
movie, but I’m not the one to write that movie,”
so I got out of the Fox contract.
EH: : So you’re not
fundamentally anti-Hollywood. You don’t think it’s
trying to ruin you or something.
DL-A: No, not at all. I
love movies. I just think there’s a lot of nonsense
that goes with them. If the terms are right, I will sell
out. All that I want – and this will make me sell
out, if that’s what you want to call it – is
control over my product, that’s the big difference,
then yeah, I’ll do it.
EH: You don’t want
to direct?
DL-A: Not yet, I don’t
know enough about movies. Not theater either, no. I love
being in the room, and I’m really great talking with
actors and talking through scenes. It’s the other
stuff I have no interest in doing. Design meetings, tech
stuff, costumes. I don’t care what color the floor
is. I don’t want to go to those production meetings.
I just want to write.
EH: What about your second
play, Wonder of the World? How did that go?
DL-A: It didn’t go
as well as Fuddy Meers. Second productions usually don’t.
There were mixed reviews. A couple really viciously scathing,
awful reviews, crazy bad [laughs], and a couple really great,
wonderful reviews. They were all over the map. And the dirty
secret about that play is that it was written before Fuddy
Meers. I knew it wasn’t as good, but I liked it –
I really wanted it to have a life. I knew it wouldtake a
bit of a beating. It was hard because we had this huge celebrity
in it, Sarah Jessica Parker. The hype was like, “Holy
cow, what have I done? I don’t think this play’s
very good.” I mean, I do think it’s good. I
stand by it. It’s just a different play. It was fine.
It wasn’t embarrassingly bad. To complain about critics
in theater is like saying, “I want to play football,
but I don’t want to be tackled.” It’s
part of the game, you know? A lot of them are going to say
nasty things about you.
EH: What do you think of
John Simon [veteran drama critic, now writing for New York
Magazine]?
DL-A: I used to think he
was a really nasty person, and he has a thing about picking
on fat people, fat actresses in particular, that I think
is really mean. But then he went over the moon about Fuddy
Meers, and even made a pun on my name: “Call the play
errant, aberrant, or Abairant, Lindsay-Abaire proves a bare
minimum less funny than Ionesco, whose true heir he is.”
Ionesco is my idol. So now I like Simon. Basically I’m
a whore is what I’m saying.
EH: What is the environment
for playwrights like now?
DL-A: It’s very, very
difficult. I’ve been incredibly lucky. I speak to
young writers sometimes, at NYU or elsewhere. The story
of how Fuddy Meers succeeded, the enormous role that luck
played, it just drives them crazy. The fact that Manhattan
Theater Club produced it was a miracle. The fact that the
director and the actors were great was a miracle. I wouldn’t
have a career if all those stars didn’t line up.
EH: You seem to write about
women a lot. Where do you think that comes from?
DL-A: I don’t know.
It just so happens that I wrote three plays in a row with
women in the lead roles.
EH: It just so happens?
DL-A: Well, okay, this is
not conscious, but my mother is a very strong presence in
my life. She’s the performer of the family. She’s
hilarious. Of course my plays would have those sorts of
women. On the other side, and this is conscious, there are
far more male roles than parts for women, so when I start
a play, I think “Does it matter if this character
is a man or a woman?” If not, I make it a woman by
default, to right the balance a bit.
EH: Is that part of your
artistic mission?
DL-A: No. I don’t
know that I have an artistic mission.
EH: Good answer.
DL-A: I just want to write
true stories. True in the deeper sense. Truthful, honest
– but funny!
EH: Do you have any temptation
to write something really dark?
DL-A: Um, no. I really don’t.
I come from a very specific place. For me, it’s not:
What’s funny here? Where can I make jokes? I’m
not a joke writer per se. I view the world in a very off,
skewed way. People have called it absurdist. I don’t
think it’s so ridiculous. In my plays, there are real
people, real dilemmas. Yeah, they’re over the top
sometimes, because the characters’ needs are so desperate,
or their situation is so odd. That’s real life to
me. Life just seems ridiculous to me sometimes. I don’t
want to write a realistic play set on a back porch, with
all due respect to Proof [a Broadway drama by David Auburn
about a famous mathematician and his daughter]. I mean,
that’s a great play, but again, not my thing. I think
theater has an obligation to be theatrical. It’s not
real. Don’t pretend it’s real. I’m not
a realist. For some, the game is how real can you make it?
That’s silly to me. It’s a play.
EH: What are your fond memories
of Milton?
DL-A: I was miserable there.
I have no fond memories.
EH: Seriously?
DL-A: No, I loved it.
EH: You bastard. Okay, who
are the key players? Amy Stevens must be one.
DL-A: Amy, of course. I
owe her my career, apparently. I always say John Zilliax,
too. Just a great teacher. I took Modern World Drama, where
we read two plays a week, starting at Aeschylus, going through
August Wilson, then Mamet. It was hardcore. I got exposed
to this breadth of theater, this whole range. You had to
pick a playwright to emulate in exercises, and I chose Ionesco.
Now John Simon says I’m his “true heir.”
John Zilliax, thanks for that. Also Kay Herzog, Rey Buono.
Speech Team was the focus of my life in theater. Dale DeLetis,
Debbie Simon, and Randy McCutcheon led the way there. I
loved it: the camaraderie, the whole scene.
EH: What were your categories?
DL-A: I did Humorous Interp,
mostly. I started doing “Kiddie Lit,” Children’s
Literature.
EH: I’m guessing the
team was good.
DL-A:We rocked. We were
legends. We went to Nationals, all that stuff.
EH: : What about bitter
memories of Milton? Did you ever feel alienated?
DL-A: You would think so
from my work, which often centers on an outsider. But actually,
I think most people found me likable. I was the valedictorian.
I was the funny guy.
EH: The class clown.
DL-A: Well, no, more like
the class comedian. I forget who made the distinction. The
class clown is the guy who runs across the football field
naked, and the class comedian is the guy who talked him
into doing it. I was that guy. Still am.
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